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Never speak about it again and talk infrastructure, talk about jobs and apprenticeship programs they will talk about later this week. to your earlier point, there are two people in the room. we don't know what was said. we only heard from one side. we don't know the president didn't say what you hoped he had said there at the end. >> people like us have been saying, donald trump can't say this, he can't say a bad thing about john mccain, he can't say a bad thing about megyn kelly. you know what happened? he got elected president of the united states. i think he thinks he has a better understan...

This, he can't say a bad thing about john mccain, he can't say a bad thing about megyn kelly. you know what happened? he got elected president of the united states. i think he thinks he has a better understanding of the public and public perceptions than people like us. who is to say he is wrong? >> an argument to be made there. >> i agree with that. >> what we saw was classic new york city big guy-itis. i will tell me people what to do and they will do it. that is the attitude donald trump has brought to the white house. it is bullying, ordering, but also very simplistic. what you can order i...