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It is hurting nuclear and wind and solar. >> so you are making the case when it comes to energy markets. the question was about shale gas that at increase in supply because people want to drive. they will buy more gas and drive more. you are saying in the case that rick perry is talking about he's right and not ridiculous? >> what happened was the big increase in the supply over the last five or six or seven years has led to a reduction in price and a big increase and people are using more on gas and less of the alternative. i think he got his economics exactly right. i'm going to give him an ...

Look, i don't know exactly the point that he was trying to make there, but it is true that we've had a big, big increase in jobs. we've got a big increase in, you know, the great thing that's happening in the energy market right now is that we're now exporting oil for the first time, a big story in the wall street journal about that. that's all good and the increase of supply and the technology has made that all possible. >> but you'd acknowledge also that in the last decade when we had the shale gas boom, the price of oil and gas at the pump hasn't consistently gone down, right? >> it has the...

And john avland back with me. he says you put the supply out there, demand will follow. he's talking about shale gas and the energy market. are people right to mock him or not? >> i don't really see why there is any controversy here. sure, any time you have an increase in supply, what happens to the price when you have an increase in supply? >> well, it plunges. >> so we had a big increase in the supply, a huge increase. 75% in american production. and remember, here is a number for you. in 2014, the price of oil hit a high at $105 a barrel. today the price of oil is $45 to $50. we've seen a 5...

Supply will lead to lower costs which will increase demand. that may be a smart point with regard to make with energy. >> hold on. >> that's true of every industry. >> yeah. and when you have an increase in supply of something, then the price goes down because it's more affordable and people will buy more of it. >> assuming they want it. there is some products. but something like that -- >> that is true. that is true. >> look -- >> they want energy. that's the point. and the question was about shale gas. just to be clear. it was about shale gas. >> we're bending over backwards to be fair here....

42% compared to 48% last month. 37% feel it is getting worst, and that's a big increase. 18% as you see staying the same. about half of you think the president is keeping his promises from the campaign trail. the rest believe he is drifting off course. we have fox team coverage tonight, mike emmanuel with what's being done on capitol hill about a possible government shut down, and chief white house correspondent, john roberts starts us off with a president who has his hands full tonight. >> reporter: good evening. it is far from a plan, more a statement of principle than anything. but today, p...