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You go down into the bayou here, josh, people say just cap this thing we want this to stop. we don't know what our lives are going to look like in a year, or five years or ten years down the road until it's capped. and hardy, hardy folk down here, josh. i've been here through a couple of hurricanes, they can handle it. they just want to know when it's going to end. if you tell them it's not going to be the same for five years, some way they'll figure out a way around it. it's tough. >> there's a lot of hope for august. i'm not going on the record and saying we're definitive they'll be done the...

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Robert gibbs about that he's scheduled to have a briefing with the reporters at 2:00 p.m. but eric hold her a briefing earlier today and was asked about this charge. and he basically said, that the criminal investigation is walled off from the separate issue of compensation. now we obviously need to press and see exactly how it is walled off and where they see those distinctions. but they are not backing away at all in saying that eric hold saer critical player in all of these negotiations and they're not going to keep him out of it. very interesting, the white house wants to jump on what they...