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Big panel, paul here, jason, mary catherine, jeffrey tubin, carl bernstein, david axelrod and phil mudd. you said if that isn't obstruction of justice, i don't know what is. >> i think that's true. when you look at the full scope of activity here by the president, when you see him demanding loyalty and then making the demand -- also, think about the scene in the oval office. it's just astonishing. he asks the vice-president of the united states and the attorney general to leave. doesn't that suggest that he wants real privacy? >> and jared kushner sort of lingers and he tells jared kushner to ...

Facts? what's the law? what's the right thing to do here? >> all right, let's bring in our panel to talk about all of this. kerstin powers is our political analyst and columnist for "usa today." david drucker is our political analyst and senior congressional correspondent for "the washington examiner." nia-malika henderson is here, our senior political reporter, along with bob baer, our intelligence and security analyst as well as former cia operative, and michael allen, former staff director for the hoss intelligence committee. we've got a super, uber, big panel this morning, as we wait for t...

The room divided, more favorable towards portraying edward snowden as a hero, someone who blew the whistle on government surveillance. another big panel featuring rick perry on prison reform where he talked about he and the department of obama justice -- there's not that clean right/left divide. i'm curious to see the one speaker coming up, rand paul, how he embraces those issues, the libertarian wing is still dominant and supportive of ron paul. >> president carter was the only old school political figure on the table. there are a lot of references to ronald reagan as we want to do. everyone ...

Tea partiers attack paul ryan for being too liberal. the big panel weighs in on the right wing chaos, next. and a methodist pastor is taking a stand for marriage equality. >> one of our frass we like to use is all means all. >> the man of god refusing to perform opposite sex marriages until same-sex marriages are legalized. this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, you will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskelet...

Balding, fat guy. and second, i wouldn't leave office in mid-term. >> oh, everything you say bounces off to me and sticks to you. it looks like republican infighting will be heathing up going into the mid-terms. but rand paul winning the stronghold could indicate what direction they are headed. >> we know we have robs. >> he says he is the sewer for republicans after cpac. >> we've identified them and we're identifying the solutions to fix them. the big panel takes on the republican medicaldown next. plus obama derangement syndrome rears its ugly head. >> and one of the architects is coming to...