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>> i follow you on twitter and i look forward to every word. and i've been wanting to ask you, how normalize things? how far are we from normal? where do you put the sign posts? think of things like fake news so per nashs repeated on a daily basis. it's kind of baked in now to national conversation. >> yeah, no i think we're such a cliche unchartered waters i don't think we've had a president like nim in terms of vulgarity recklessness nb disregard for truth norms institutions of course one says this then one is defending i've been something of a reformer i think most of my time in washington ...

Presidential. >> i follow you on twitter and i look forward to every word. and i've been wanting to ask you, how normalize things? how far are we from normal? where do you put the sign posts? think of things like fake news so per nashs repeated on a daily basis. it's kind of baked in now to national conversation. >> yeah, no i think we're such a cliche unchartered waters i don't think we've had a president like nim in terms of vulgarity recklessness nb disregard for truth norms institutions of course one says this then one is defending i've been something of a reformer i think most of my time ...