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Either of them. there is a tall candidate, mitt romney who you worked for who isn't getting in right now. why do you think people with higher stature who may not be publicly supportive of the president hasn't jumped in? >> it's a tough thing being an incumbent president. you have to be willing to strap that on and think it's really an uphill battle all the way. you know, at face value, governor weld is much more of a sort of person the republican party would nominate. former reagan appointed u.s. attorney, big state governor who won historic upsets, got reelected with the largest margin in the...

Supportive of the president might not jump in. >> it's a tough thing being the incumbent president. you have to think it's really an uphi uphill battle all the way. a former reagan appointed attorney, big state governor who got reelected with the largest margin in the history of massachusetts, that's more likely who would be a republican nominee than a guy who was in the casino business and donated to anthony weiner. all you can do is get out there and fight and see how the fight goes. and be glad you're in the fight. and i think he's very glad he's in this fight. >> you've been asked almost e...

Going to affect the elections and how it's going to be implemented. that's the one which now allows felons to vote. so there's a lot of things that are up in the air in a state with such a bounty of electoral votes as florida. >> so the word on -- i don't want to get too in the weeds for people especially this far out. but the word of one of the reasons that there's some resonance and relevance of the internal polls that the president lied to the american people about in terms of what they say/ is his lying, scott, that it's a problem. it's a problem for him across the country. it makes people...

Election psycycle and take backe senate, but we still wouldn't get to the 60-vote threshold. or when we take back the white house and we continue to have the house and if we don't have the senate we have to get votes in the senate. you can do it by shaming them or you can do it by creating a big presence in their state to where they have to work with the other side. so for example, if vice president biden won texas, north carolina, and all these other states that are showing he's winning, if you're the republican senator from that state you now have a reason to work with the vice president to ...

Get the nomination is what keeps you from delivering on the promise? >> look, what you do to get the nomination is frankly i think what joe biden is doing, is staying above the fray. he is not engaging with his primary opponents. and he is banking and betting and going hard on the issue that matters most to democratic voters right now. electability. i can win. i can beat donald trump. i think most democratic voters and a lot of voters who are anti-trump like myself, we will stump over trump. so if you're telling me that joe biden is the guy who's got the best chance to beat trump and can beat ...