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Be hurt by these kinds of big swabs of national monuments. >> shannon: explain how that works because i'd really understand it until i heard from some of these people about what it meant to them, their tax base from their livelihood when this land is taken out of potential use. >> many people east of utah don't really understand what public lands mean. two-thirds of the land in utah is controlled by the federal government. you can't tax it, can't develop it. that's a real problem especially gives rural counties commits hard for them to fund education. there's a lot of uncertainty with these bi...

Patagonia, the president basically said in an illegal move the president just reduced the size of bears years and grand staircase national monuments. they said they're going to go ahead an end sue over this. >> the interesting thing is this is some wealthy environmentalists and we really feel in the state of utah that a wealthy man's playground should never come at the expense of a working person's family. their lives and livelihoods. there is precedent for this over the years. the presidents from both political parties have abused the antiquities act. it is supposed to use the smallest area p...