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Intellectual property -- >> laura: wait a second, david stockman, reagan's budget guy reagan's guy -- >> my former boss. >> laura: your former boss. said this today. - >> i think it's a great big p.r. stunt. this is not maga, this will do a lot for the american workers. nafta was never a problem. the whole thing is, like, a phony issue. >> well, dave is an old friend of mine.ph he and i disagree on a whole bunch of things the last 30 or so years. by the by, this will help workers. there is good domestic content there is good north american content laws which are enforceable, going to get labor...

With world leaders have gotten leaked. this rob porter situation. rex tillerson not speaking well of the president. jared kushner losing his top-secret clearance and they go on and on. the president referring to countries in a pa jurorty fashion. as a reporter you cover any white house and the bhowhite ho is a large operation with a big p.r. spin operation. you try to find out what is really going on. you have people who diagree with each other, it's amplified or magnified that you have a president who is off on his own and you have this scaffolding of staff and advisers who are trying to purs...

Which is always pursuing an agenda not in the absence of a president who has a firm grasp on his agenda. there's also the fact that trump's own instincts, going back to john barren the days as new york real estate, he posed as his own p.r. agent. this is set at the top. i learned it from you, dad. >> it's gossipy. the gossipy stuff really does come from the president. when you've seen personnel changes, he's thinking of firing so and so that is coming from him or at least indirectly. >> indirectly saying -- >> right. because he's talking about it in very open ways or having people do it. >> ev...

Stormy daniels' accusation the one that had to be settled. those were not important? this one suddenly was. this was the most important one. it doesn't make sense, you have all of this money, even if it's a retainer and he doesn't know specifically, this is the big one we have to settle because it could be a big p.r. disaster. you have to believe that a lot of this lying and covering up is because it is a totally inappropriate expansion of the potential expansion into the mueller investigation and they think it doesn't have anything to do with anything else. now it has gotten too far gone that...

Kim jong un wants to travel. also maybe geneva, switzerland. reagan and gorbachev met there. still a possibility, it might be vietnam. vietnam had fairly good relations with north korea. though, recently, they've been a little more rocky. the big issue when it comes to the meeting is how far is kim willing to travel and also, how far does the president want to travel? if he flies almost all the way to go see kim, it's a big p.r. victory for north korea. >> harris: the president said if it doesn't work out, he will walk away and do what he has to do. i imagine he will come up with a backup plan...