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We would just, like, attend a party or in passing we would spend time with one another. bill. all right, bro. see, i met him when he's selling drugs and he's doing things but it's kind of like a harmless scene, it's not a really revved up aggressive scene, you know, like you would expect in a drug culture. more kind of like the hippie scene. it wasn't like the biker scene i'd come from. the biker community, it's revved up all the time. like, you're always acting up and you're always in that state. we were definitely okay with violence. >> how did it go from sort of like not that big a deal to ...

We would just, like, attend a party or in passing we would spend time with one another. bill. all right, bro. see, i met him when he's selling drugs and he's doing things but it's kind of like a harmless scene, it's not a really revved up aggressive scene, you know, like you would expect in a drug culture. more kind of like the hippie scene. it wasn't like the biker scene i'd come from. the biker community, it's revved up all the time. like, you're always acting up and you're always in that state. we were definitely okay with violence. >> how did it go from sort of like not that big a deal to ...