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Individual who is receive the entitlements pay the bill. and the other one is to have the people who sort of receive on the -- paying end, when we are talking about health care, have you to remember that there are hospitals and doctors and drug companies and device company who is receive all of these entitlement payments, and also when people consume health care. so are we going to stick more of this on individuals and or more of this on the providers of health care? that's a debate really that we need to have as a country about how to go about cutting entitlements that we will get there is ob...

We did things differently in this bill. if gave the tools to law enforcement to work with -- the federal government, enforcing laws already on the books. we didn't create a single new law. we do realize that dealing with illegal immigrants here in the united states is a very complex issue. we need to work together as a federal government and as a state to get this program solved. that's why, once again, we need courageous leadership in washington, d.c. quite frankly, that's why i am running for the united states congress so i can work on this and many other huge problems facing our nation in a...

>> yeah. i certainly think there were pressures put on by the obama administration to enter into a lawsuit because once again, the department of justice officials i met with and spoke with told me that this was a different bill, this was a different spirit to the way that utah approached its solution to working competitively -- and in a way with the federal government that alloweditous enforce the law, but not usurp federal authority. >> i know some of the sections, so people understand, that are challenged are a couple of things, the requirement that law enforcement verify legal status for th...

Interrupting your vacation to be here on the show. i have to ask you about the fact that i know that g.o.j. attorneys met with you before the lawsuit was filed. had you hoped you could avoid a lawsuit because your law is different from the other states? >> yeah. utah law is very much different from other states. in fact, i have met face to face with the department of justice. they indicated to me that this law was something that was more reasonable and much better balanced approach than other states have done. so it was quite surprising, quite frankly, that they decided to sue over house bill ...