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Fraud -- >> all legal ways to access the american system, which are fraudulently used by people you're saying? >> yes, and over 500,000 people who fraud their ways into the united states. >> people like paul ryan for example, argue that boston is exactly the proof that we need to reform that system that michael cutler is talking about. listen. >> we need a modern immigration system that helps us not only protect our border but protect national security and all of its aspects. if anything this is an argument for modernizing our immigration laws. >> anna in your view how does boston change the d...

Over the same ground that everybody's been going over for the last few years. sadly, i was hoping for him to look for that bipartisan effort that he could have brought up that he ignored. that's the big bipartisan effort is the shoeler bill where you have over 230 democrats and republicans almost evenly split supporting a bill that kind of follows up on what the president's been doing with requiring e verify for all federal contractors. he missed that one and that's the middle ground where everybody can work together. >> i'm going to jump in. i know you're a big proponent of the schuller bill....