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Information they know. >> bill: he pointed a finger at china amid growing concerns over the start of covid. a virus lab in wuhan china, some scientists were hospitalized in november of 2019. harold and hurt. here we go. charlie, what do you think of this in light of the reporting over the weekend? >> well, it's all pretty astonishing but not like we haven't had some signals that there was a real problem at this lab a long time ago. back in january of last year the -- one of our reporters bill gerts at the washington times reported his intelligence sources were telling him that this lab was con...

Was concerned about the fact that maybe that may have been the source of this horrible pandemic. and of course bill gerts and my paper was shut down. google and facebook disappeared all the stories we published on this and so -- and i think the reason for it is because they were all trying to sort of politicize the pandemic in order to hurt donald trump. everything president trump did, tried to do to hold china accountable was sort of jammed through this meat grinder of politics. he was accused of being a xenophobe and racist when he tried to talk about china's role in all this. if you remembe...

Should engage on nuclear cooperation and space cooperation. what happened? they ended up stealing nuclear secrets on every deployed u.s. war head. that technology was then spread to pakistan, iran, north korea, and other places. we helped their missiles and now missiles aimed at our city. long range and intermediate range missiles. this is a real problem. >> tucker: bill, i wish we had more time for this. i hope you will come back. >> sure. >> tucker: look at trump the first american president ever to call your bluff and challenge you, aren't you going to do everything you can to tank the u.s....

They don't care that they are poisoning our young people. china is a rising super power. it plans to displace the united states as the world's strongest country. bill gerts is a senior editor at the washington free beacon author of the new book deceiving the sky inside china's drive for global supremacy. he joins us for first tv interview about that book. good to see you tonight. >> thank you, tucker. good to be on the show. >> tucker: we have done a bunch of segments on china but you dive so deeply into this. gave us the overview. where would you say china is right now in its effort to overta...