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Change. but there is still big disagreement it seems among democrats and now a self imposed christmas deadline to get it done. joining me now to talk about the state of where this is, congressional correspondent manu raju and lauren fox. manu, what is the understanding right now about if the senate can finish this bill by christmas as democrats would like and what happens if this pushes in to next year? >> the expectation is that getting this done before christmas is highly unlikely, that almost certainly it will have to be punted until the new year .democratic leaders are not willing to conce...

Do you think republicans in the house are going street in favor of the legislation if it comes up tonight for a vote? >> i think there will be some republicans that will vote in favor of this historic bill, because they, too, have constituents who need this investment into their roads and bridges and broadband and clean water. >> you say that you want to actually see a score, an accounting from what's called the congressional budget office on the bigger $1.75 trillion spending bill before a vote. but progressives had been ready to vote for both bills, they say, at the same time, and put their ...

Bill text came out at midnight this morning, basically. and so, when we're talking about investments in the american economy that touches people's lives, from the time they're born until the time they die, it really is important for us to understand exactly how much taxpayer dollars we're spending and what good things can come out of that and also what exactly is in the bill. this is good governance. and i think it's what the american people expect out of their legislators. >> text, i take it, correct me if i'm wrong, is at least 2,000 pages. is that right? >> yes, it's 2,130-some pages. so we...

Vote on the infrastructure bill? >> no. >> [laughing]. >> build back better today what are the big hurdles to overcome? >> i will let you know as soon as i wish too. >> members are reviewing the bill. democrats released 1200 pages of new bill text on wednesday. >> this has gone on for more than 3 months. the argument is disingenuous we don't know what is in the bill. a magnifying glass was put on it. >> democrats stuffed paid leave in the bill and taxes on nicotine products. not all will survive in the senate. there could be a vote tonight on the social spending bill but moderate democrats wan...

Without the reconciliation package. we'll have to see how that plays out. i do think, to your point in terms of timing, you know, the speaker had hoped they would have a bill passed on both of these by the end of the wee. i think that timing is difficult, particularly because we don't have bill text yet. the moderates said they want 72 hours at least to review that bill. that puts friday at the earliest. even the political dynamics, this could slip for at least a week, if not more than that. to the point of what i was trying to get into a little bit is, this is going to be a ping-pong. the hou...