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If jerry was gonna get more involved in politics just how is that did, he has to ensure that all dozens were tie. >> tied up. i am happy to welcome billy corbyn, the director of god forbid, streaming on hulu right now. and msnbc columnist anthea butler. she is a religious studies professor and graduate chair at the university of pennsylvania. and the author of white evangelical racism, the politics of morality in america. i'm gonna just say it billy, i have seen the documentary, it is extraordinary. but help our audience understand, it is like i am tearing up my mouth asking. what were the loo...

I don't think anyone remembers this. but a lot of students ended up leaving at the school couple of years ago because of -- a lot of african american students -- jerry got up to the top of evangelicalism but for donald trump, and had a spectacular fall because he basically had some issues about his sex life that he wanted to continue to act out. >> well there you go, billy, let's play another clip from the film. >> severe, 12 says -- at the time he wasn't who he says he is today. he wasn't running for president. he was just the apprentice. they knew that i like to donald trump, that i read his...

I am happy to welcome billy corbyn, the director of god forbid, streaming on hulu right now. and msnbc columnist anthea butler. she is a religious studies professor and graduate chair at the university of pennsylvania. and the author of white evangelical racism, the politics of morality in america. i'm gonna just say it billy, i have seen the documentary, it is extraordinary. but help our audience understand, it is like i am tearing up my mouth asking. what were the loose ends jerry falwell needed to tie up. just gross. >> well, jerry falwell, the president of the largest christian university ...

Fall because he basically had some issues about his sex life that he wanted to continue to act out. >> well there you go, billy, let's play another clip from the film. >> severe, 12 says -- at the time he wasn't who he says he is today. he wasn't running for president. he was just the apprentice. they knew that i like to donald trump, that i read his book the art of the deal. my brother loved business and thought donald trump is great. >> absolutely. >> they were bringing him into the world that he couldn't even imagine. real estate politics and my future. everything is here. >> how deeply was...