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Lawyers. michael is asking why the hypocrisy. he's the former head of the c.i.a. bin laden unit. >> it's clear that interrogation in special cases is fine. what do you make of what seems to be some inconsistencies? >> it's -- when you're in an ideological bind that is what happens. they're keeping him in pakistan under jurisdiction of the pakistanis so they can question him for aggressively than we questioned the christmas day bomber. there's hypocrisy involved and i'm sure the administration will get it from the left and right and deservely so. >> they can say it's not us, it's the pakistanis...

This involves the collection of intelligence. best to do it and not talk about it. >> former head of the c.i.a. bin laden unit says he has significant intelligence value. >> he's very important in the taliban. the overall military commander. he will be missed certainly. if the packs persuade him to talk he has good information for us. >> experts say he will be replaced and the war will go on, unless he gives up critical information about key taliban and al-qaeda leaders including perhaps whereabouts of bin laden. >> bret: that would be something. thank you. new york mayor bloomberg take on vic...

Something in the process that i consider constructive. but this could just be another political theater event as far as i know. i just don't know which way it's going to go. and i really don't know what the goal of the president is here, to be honest. he hasn't talked to me about it. gregg: i thought your news release said it was a good opportunity. i'll reread that again as well. senator judd gregg, thank you very much. >> thank you. martha: here's a question, could life after osama bin laden eventually be worse? that is the warning from the master terrorist's son, the former head of the cia ...

As well as with customs and border patrol agents. we reacted very well to that situation and he was put in a process that has been the same process that we have used for every other terrorist that's been captured on our soil. >> that is not true. jose padilla was not used through that process. that was just one. was that handled the right way? let's ask two former c.i.a. operatives whose job was to hunt down al-qaida. gary, author of human intelligence and former head of the c.i.a. bin laden unit. michael, first off with you. do you agree with john brennan? >> no, i don't agree with john brenn...

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