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Senate bill 5 is much broader than the wisconsin one because it includes so many more state workers. we're talking university professors, university staff, toll-takers, police, firemen, park workers. it covers the gamut, megyn. megyn: and you have an $8 billion budget shortfall in ohio. $3 billion in wisconsin. so you might expect additional cuts, more sweeping cuts. john kasich said, that's what they elected me to do, but the unions are not happy and they're not happy because they say they will be facing all sorts of extra costs now as a result of these measures and that the taxpayers will fa...

Used for political purpose. what they're saying in wisconsin is people should be able to make that decision for themselves. in ohio which is next on the agenda, it will be there in a week or so, what happened was 25 years ago ohio was number one in new job creation. when labor took over the state legislature, they said this. they passed a law that said when unions negotiating for government and state employees present a contract to an elected official, city, county or state, either they sign it or it goes to binding arbitration, and it has to be implemented regardless of what the taxpayers wan...

Point. that's why you're interrupting right here. are the elected officials going to sign the contract or forced to punt them. >earthquake, martin, go ahead. >> it's time for the chamber off commerce -- it's fine for them to give millions to republican candidates which is exactly what they did in the last election to run ads on behalf of republican candidates, but somehow it's wrong for unions to do the same thing. there's a level playing field in the united states. unions have a right to represent people, and bob, of course, completely misrepresents binding arbitration. all binding arbitratio...

Government officials a way to be more efficient and more effective in the delivery of services, and we have to give them the flexibility they need to -- they need to manage their costs, including labor. they want to give the people that work in the city more money, they can do that, but what they shouldn't do is have binding arbitration where an outsider comes in, imposes a settlement on the city that the city can't afford and then they've got to raise taxes and when they raise taxes they drive jobs out and by the way, your precious city of cincinnati has lost 40 percent of its population sinc...

>> lrl walker! recall walker! recall walker! [ chanting ] welcome back to "the ed show." that was protesters in the state capitol in madison, wisconsin today. protesters like that can spread all over america if other heartless republican governors get their way. that's the game plan. later this week the ohio senate will start to debate a bill that will eliminate collective bargaining for all state employees. governor john kasich fully supports the bill and is working on putting it in his budget. kasich wants to eliminate binding arbitration and have the ability to fire any public worker who go...