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In humans. the risk for evolution is extremely high. sadly i'm going to predict in two, three, four months we'll have another variant and that variant will be more infectious than the delta variation. this virus got a jump start by being one of the most infectious in humans. >> martha: your thoughts, david, as we stand here today looking at this new omicron variant. >> well, i have great personal regard for dr. redfield. no doubt he's confidence as a virologist. understand the potency of this pandemic from day one, with us a very asymmetrical. it was like frankenstein's monster got out of the ...

But xeniphobic. >> so that had a chilling effect on the scientific community. >> in recently released emails from early 2020, dashek discusses signing the letter in an email to scientists writing quote we'll put it out in a way that doesn't link it back to our collaboration so we maximize an independent voice. >> people may say look, you're too close to it. i mean, you work in china, you are part of the alliance that helps fund research happening there. maybe there's a conflict. >> how can there be a conflict when it's a statement of support? >> the thing i think that struck me was so early. h...