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Effort by the administration, rudy giuliani and trump to discredit it before it comes out and when it comes out. we know, for instance, they are putting together their own report. it will be largely historical and probably a bit bias, i would argue. we also know rudy hinted they would fight the release of the report citing executive privilege hoping to basically bottle it up. and mat whitaker's role as acting attorney general probably plays a role on this here. i do have a question for dan ny if he's still around. >> he is. >> so if they fight this on report, the release, mueller and manafort ...

It? absolutely. that's not the only reason. there's also -- there are plenty of black americans in this country who have been able to make it despite this if we want to say white privilege, despite that. they've made it. why? what did they do that was different? we need to find where the common ground is and where solutions are and look at what we're teaching our kids and what attitudes are but it's a two-way street. there are both sides that can learn from this. >> bryant, you have done pretty well for yourself. how would you respond to that? >> i'll say, yes, there are many african-americans...