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With. and when you ask those questions, you are just playing, you know, would the president ever actually fire bob mueller? would the president ever actually pardon michael cohen? there's this sense that basically if there is a red line crossed and in the president's mind, it's not just his business and his families, it's basically the investigation, mueller's investigation goes outside the scope that the president understood it to be, which was russia collusion and then obstruction. that is when white house aides say the risk becomes really real, the threat becomes more than sort of a near co...

Are under -- you know, under investigation and say they shouldn't flip, they shouldn't cooperate, you know, stonewall the prosecution. >> right. >> what side is he on? he's the president. can't do his job, out. >> you keep saying he's the boss of the justice department, one interprets that dis c honest with the law. thank you, elizabeth holtzman who voted to impeach president nixon. elizabeth is going to stick around. coming up, rudy giuliani gives an explanation why president trump fired james comey. this is the third different justification of his termination coming from the white house an...

Scorsese-ian. the president wasn't tweeting about cohen's innocence. he was saying, no, he won't flip. >> this is a long relationship between these two men. at times it seems father/son. at times it can be quite acrimonious over the past decade. but cohen was not so much a legal mind at the side of businessman donald trump and then candidate donald trump. he was a political adviser, a media adviser, a relationship builder. i remember during the beginning of the presidential campaign process in 2015, he was someone trying to reach out to evangelical pastors in iowa, someone who did -- he was an...

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Communications team in the white house. but i had to believe it was an effort to get in front of the bad facts they knew were coming out in the wake of this raid on mike cohen's home, office and hotel room. they know that there are going to be some bad things that come out there and they wanted to perhaps get ahead of it from a pr standpoint. it didn't work out. yes, absolutely, they may be sort of giving an olive branch to michael cohen to expull pay the hip at least from the campaign finance aspect of it. who knows what other trouble he may be in in the southern district of new york in terms...