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Place and say what they would do is move this to a different kind of system. whether you call it voucher of premium support. instead of the government covering the bill, whatever it is, they would send money to individuals and they could then go buy a health insurance plan, whether on the private market or still from the government, still medicare, and they can do that. the big uncertain questions about that with run, will over the long-term, introduce more competition to the system and reduce costs as romney and ryan claim lit or will it fail do that? and as a result will people essentially b...

Draining on taxpayers. on the other hand, there may be some things it now pays for that people like and may not be quite as generous in the future. >> what would ryan do? >> so, i think we can put ryan and romney broadly in the same place and say what they would do is move this to a different kind of system. whether you call it voucher of premium support. instead of the government covering the bill, whatever it is, they would send money to individuals and they could then go buy a health insurance plan, whether on the private market or still from the government, still medicare, and they can do ...

That medicare tried to do a little bit less of paying for quantity of health care and more of paying for quality of health care. there are health experts to which the plan did more. there are those who see it as on the way to death panels. >> the obama plan. the white house, basically are saying no commitment to any recipient, someone over 65, nobody's going to get hurt. is that fair? >> well, i don't know whether that's fair. anytime you change a program, it has the poesh l to be potential to be better or worse. there may be things in the future that medicare doesn't pay for. on the other han...