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That he would go to and everything else, he's got one simple case that he doesn't even know if it i've exactly like this case. it was kind of, maybe similar like it. and now he's using that as a standard. it just came across as less than professional and less than the state needed, too, and i don't think they expected any of this. i think they expected a simple m.e. to take the stand, they would deal with the typical things that go on and they were going to be getting their big finale here over the pictures of trayvon after his mother and his brother's very moving testimony, and it didn't turn...

I think don west has been the bad guy and i think in general he's been the good guy and i don't think they'll hold it against him for a conviction. i think that will be one element amongst many that they'll look at when they go into deliberations. >> mark nejame and sunny hostin, we're going to come back to you, because up next, bizarre testimony, really strange, from the medical examiner who conducted the final autopsy on trayvon martin's body. also a lot of other news. just weeks ago, they were meeting. john kerry there with former egyptian president mohamed morsi. now we're learning that ...

So, the day's most bizarre and confrontational testimony in the george zimmerman trial came from a medical examiner. dr. shiping bao did the final autopsy on trayvon martin, but he testified he has no memory of it. and what he said next really did spark a courtroom controversy. >> i do not remember anything, zero, anything on the day of autopsy. i depend on my notes. >> show me what you're looking at. >> before this testimony, i told you i spent hundreds, hundreds of hours. i put down potential answers to your potential question. these are my notes. >> may i see them, please? >> i'd rather you...

Defense simply because it's the state's burden. i found that all the witnesses were credible. i think that they all came across good. i think at the end of the day it's a swearing contest and they have different opinions. >> do you think the jury, sunny, takes anything away from this or they just discount both sides? >> i think that it could be a wash. i agree with mark on that. the one thing again, when you listen to testimony and i know jurors do this, they listen to it in context, not just in little pieces. what is troubling for the defense i think is when the shot rings out, the screams st...

>> well, i thought he was a very credible witness in the sense that he's a law enforcement officer, he spoke clearly with conviction, although i do think that the circumstances surrounding what he is testifying to just seem a bit odd that you would be watching, you know, on your computer and you hear a scream somewhere in your home and you identify that scream immediately as that of not even your son but your nephew. i'm not sure if that -- those circumstances are believable but i thought that his testimony -- through his testimony he came off as a credible witness. >> and i concur with that. ...