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Articulating other people's confidence. everyone's hanging on every word. and so i don't know what to make of that. i don't know whether he actually knows something or whether he's just talking and accidentally saying something that seems much bigger than it is. >> it appears to me that he is because we have no new evidence. we have nothing clarified from what was said by angus houston. this is a fear i have of getting into the investigation the way that they have from the beginning and making conclusions rather than stating the facts. you say that this is the fact. even in his position of say...

The ocean is a vast, vast place. well, 17 days now. people are asking as well about salt water and erosion of evidence. this would be pretty quick to start eroding, wouldn't it? >> yeah. the salt water. the depth. certainly if it's down at 9,000 or 10,000 feet with the pressure. bear in mind the real evidence is in those black boxeses. and they are designed to withstand this. let's stay focused on that. they -- it's highly likely they survive the impact. they're designed to do that and they're designed to go down at least 20,000 feet of depth in the ocean. >> but miles? >> uh-huh. >> absent of...