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Anything in this context, short of his actions toward the women who were making the accusations, do you think that that is not disqualifying, rick? >> well, look, first off, i don't know how you're going to prove that he's, quote, lying about something. this is -- he said that he drank. he said that he drank to excess at times. that he was drunk at times. he admitted to that. the only thing he did not admit to was blacking out and not recalling things. and you know, he has his college roommate basically, you know, saying, you know, i've lived with this guy for three years and i never saw him i...

To was blacking out and not recalling things. and you know, he has his college roommate basically, you know, saying, you know, i've lived with this guy for three years and i never saw him in this position with the next day he couldn't tell what was going on. >> that's true and chris dudley also said he never saw him blackout. i don't know that the blackout standard is the sole criterion. >> he admitted that he got drunk, but he didn't really admit it anymore than he needed to. i think it's fair criticism to say that he was not talking about himself the way his classmates talk about him. the qu...