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Directly on broken ribs instead of providing opioids. if you just want to target big s pharma, you will get all tiedwat up. you actually won't be able toç treat any actual people. >> richard: i hear that, dana. m the point i am making is thatadf when i had four wisdom teeth removed, they gave me 45 percocets. you don't need 45 percocets.'t >> kimberly: where are they now?here >> richard: i got rid of them.hd i don't need 45 percocets. >> dana: doctors are taught to treat people's pain.t people come in and say they have pain. it is hard to diagnose. what was missing for me today, what are you...

Have the needed support? >> well, i certainly hope not. it's, i think, little wonder, richard, that the bill in the senate was cooked up behind closed doors. the reason is really simple. when you put out a product that's going to gut health care for millions of people in this country, you listen to the people trying to defend what the senate is doing, and all they are doing is finding new ways to say we want to cut medicaid, we want to do away with the pre-existing language provision so that people can be discriminated against because of those conditions. it's okay for us to drive up costs on ...

The health care system. i think linsey's rigdeslinsdsey the democrats to sign in on this. >> why do you think he went forward, the republicans did with health care instead of tax reform first? any sort of thought on why they did that? >> well, i don't know. i just think it was a -- i think he was told by ryan this was going to be the easiest way forward. i think it's a mistake, personally, not doing the tax reform because i think the country needs a stimulus. but look, i think donald trump is slyke he says a dealmaker pip thi . if there's anyone in the white house who's been a recent president...