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He's been on the list. sort of like moderate muslims trying to reduce the islamic extremism in theirik religion. why did they do this? why does splc make it such a blanket statement for everybody? >> juan: i don't know if it's blanket but i think they provide a public service. i think it'se. one that conservatives are very uptight about because they feel that they are being labeled as hate groups when they have argumentsi about, for example, family research council about attitudes towards transsexuals or gay whatever. they say we are expressing our religious values. the southern poverty law ce...

Juan, your pal is ben carson. you know he's a nice guy. he's been on the list. sort of like moderate muslims trying to reduce the chthonic extremism in their religion. why did they do this? why does splc make it such a blanket statement for everybody? >> juan: i don't know if it's blanket but i think they provide a public service. i think it's one that conservatives are very uptight about because they feel that they are being labeled as hate groups when they have arguments about, for example, family research council about attitudes towards transsexuals or gay whatever. the southern poverty law...

Juan, your pal is ben carson. you know he's a nice guy. he's been on the list. sort of like moderate muslims trying to reduce the chthonic extremism in their religion. why did they do this? why does splc make it such a blanket statement for everybody? >> juan: i don't know if it's blanket but i think they provide a public service. i think it's one that conservatives are very uptight about because they feel that they are being labeled as hate groups when they have arguments about, for example, family research council about attitudes towards transsexuals or gay whatever. the southern poverty law...

That statement was a blanket statement for all of the hated, destruction and violence that was going on. steve: see, i think the statement he made two days ago was to defend the first statement, which he came out and he said repeatedly listen, the reason i wasn't more specific is because it was an unfolding situation. we didn't know what was going on. doctor? >> well, i kind of agree with my two counterparts here. i mean, the last statement was extemporaneous in that he should have reverted back to the second statement. one of the things we have to look at, that press conference was for infras...

Hijacked the event. he went rogue and he doubled down on his comments on saturday, blowing past what he said really to correct it monday night. what's your take on that? >> he simply -- well, on saturday the president made a blanket statement condemning all violence, all of the participants in the violence, and racism, bigotry in every form. the media wasn't satisfied and so on monday he came back and he was more specific in his denunciation. in trying to talk about infrastructure yesterday, of course they went straight to his denunciation on the monday and tried to revisit it and he came back...