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You'll recall the president started his administration almost from day one initiating a total categorical blanket ban on seven muslim majority countries. that's what led the courts to rein him in. and only after the president tried, tried, and tried a third time did he whittle down the policy and included countries like north korea and venezuela, and finally he was able to pass by the thinnest of majorities, 5-4, some constitutional muster. but it does not mean the policy is wise. from a national security perspective, you want to do risk-based targeting. you want to use intelligence to focus y...

That's what led the courts to rein him in. and only after the president tried, tried, and tried a third time did he whittle down the policy and included countries like north korea and venezuela, and finally he was able to pass by the thinnest of majorities, 5-4, some constitutional muster. but it does not mean the policy is wise. from a national security perspective, you want to do risk-based targeting. you want to use intelligence to focus your security apparatus on the true risks, not engage in blanket targeting or categorical bans or bans of national origin. from a perspective of national s...

This supreme court decision as you see it? >> well, this 5-4 decision wasn't a surprise because if you'll recall the president started his administration almost from day one initiating a total categorical blanket ban on seven muslim majority countries. that's what led the courts to rein him in. and only after the president tried, tried, and tried a third time did he whittle down the policy and included countries like north korea and venezuela, and finally he was able to pass by the thinnest of majorities, 5-4, some constitutional muster. but it does not mean the policy is wise. from a national...

Does anybody know for sure at this point? >> reporter: the answer is no, anderson. he doesn't know yet who came up with that strategy to single out or target tea party groups for extra or inappropriate scrutiny and as you said, when you listen carefully to him, he admits that's something he believes but hasn't yet proven. democratic sources i've talked to who are involved in this investigation say they still do have other interviews to do, very important ones with irs employees, likely this week, and that's going to help get to the bottom of why this broad policy was put in place. but they and...

That's something he believes but hasn't yet proven. democratic sources i've talked to who are involved in this investigation say they still do have other interviews to do, very important ones with irs employees, likely this week, and that's going to help get to the bottom of why this broad policy was put in place. but they and other republican sources i've talked to say what they have found out is that it certainly was early involvement from washington, but when we're talking about washington, it's not the obama administration. it's other bureaucrats, tax attorneys in the washington office of ...