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Being disloyal under the constitution of the united states to the actual commander in chief. and as long as he has given them legal orders they are going to follow them. they are trying to not leak out statements like with tillerson "he is a blanking moron." that the defense establishment, state, treasury, ciadod are appalled. there is no process any longer. the national security council has gone dark. they are cutting the staff. there is nobody there that even checked the grammar of a letter from one head of state to another about a national security issue. the thing read like it was a fifth-...

Blanking moron, right? >> says he's talked -- >> but he will never, ever deny he says that. so he's out. >> so john kelly calls him an idiot but before hes could, he goes hey, rex, hold my beer. he calls him be a idiot. and then denies it. but rex is kind of like, i'm not going to deny this. >> if you look back, the state department did at one time deny it. but when asked directly, rex tillerson never would deny it. he was given that "60 minutes" interview about five chances to do it. and he was great. >> margaret brennan was great. >> john kelly said the story was absolute bs. we'll ask carol...

President. rex tillerson doing a decent job as he's appearing on the sunday shows having to defend himself against high remarks over calls the president trump a moron and not being castrated? >> i've talked to a lot of former chiefs of staff in the last 2 hours about all kinds of things including tillerson. some don't believe tillerson called him a moron. they believe he called him a blanking moron. look. a lot of people wonder why he is still there. jim backer when he was secretary of state to george w. bush and said he was so close to h.w., he said nothing could come between me and my presid...