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Said that they believe that it was a bomb. wouldn't the united states have that same chatter or sharing with each other? >> i think that's true. we're not privy to is the forensic of the examine nation and access to what's in that blax box. that's in the hands of egyptian officials and russian officials. we have to pause because it's in their interest to not be totally honest with us about the facts here. ben carson's campaign coming clean about a personal detail of his life. in his autobiography he wrote, i was offered a full scholarship to west point.

D detainee person in that cat goir who the goeft thinks is too dangerous to release. >> well, they've tried, but they tortured him. >> yes, in some sense. >> so, in some dark place, he 345i have to leave in a blax box. we also have someone who is on the other side of this who worked in the interrogation program, wrote a book about it. glen carl joins me now. glen, can we start with the black sites that are part, a huge part of this. these are spread across the world, some in afghanistan, some in poland. can you walk me through -- >> what is a black site? is it in a basement? what's it like? >>...