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Against the iads, the integrated air defense capabilities at the top of the target list. whenever you conduct an operation like that it blinds assad's ability to respond and get a sense of what is being done against him at that very moment. then you go after his command and control, he can't communicate with forces and some of his forces that could take the initiative and respond independently like naval forces and the air forces as well. >> chris, you authored a study which senator mccain has referenced while making a case for intervention, and it outlines how the u.s. would degrade assad's m...

Initiative and respond independently like naval forces and air forces, as well. >> chris, you authored a study while making a case for intervention and it outlines how the u.s. could degrade assa's military with crude missiles. i know you've since changed your thi thinking. you said a limited strike. >> the limited strike in the absence of a strategic is the limited options. if we go in to punish assad that doesn't make sense. we need objective. i offer that study before the use of chemical weapons and it was specific to degrading or destroying the syrian air force. that mission is a very easi...

I would imagine they will do this again, and we'll see contributions from other nations against very precise known intelligence naval forces of the syrian regime to eliminate that very conventional capability. >> and unlikely, i mean, how easy would it be to take out the syrian anti-aircraft capabilities? without that we wouldn't see nato or u.s. or european fighter jets over syria? >> right, no fixed wing if that were the case. you would see unmanned vehicles for intelligence collection and for precision strike, but you've got to go after the eye adds, the integrated air defense capabilities ...

Complicate whatever the next chapter is. >> general marks, do you see this as ending the misery in syria or as even a step in that direction? i mean, even if it did -- >> no -- >> -- cut out chemical weapons, 100,000 people have been killed by means other than chemical weapons. >> anderson, here is the confusing part is that if we want to be punitive against assad and we're going after his ability to employ his conventional military forces and to deliver chemical weapons, that will do nothing to eliminate assad and his regime. we learned this lesson in iraq when our initial mission was to remo...