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Kabul last august? >> we are still digesting what happened in august, bill and expect questions trying to get at sort of anything we learn from august that we are trying to apply now. they are two very different circumstances, bill. there's not a lot of parallel between what we are seeing now in ukraine at what we saw in afghanistan but we are ending a 20 year war there. and we were dealing with a massive evacuation of a lot of people 124,000 in a course of two weeks. this is not the same situation. this is extra trying to prevent a war from happening braid that is why, back to your earlier qu...

What would secretary blinken say then that he has not already? >> mark i sorely will not be for the secretary of state part i work at the pentagon. i will say i suspect mr. blinken will again make clear that we are serious about trying to find a diplomatic path forward we are serious about wanting to avert a war. i think he will also make it clear that if russia does this, they do it with diplomatic options left on the table for they will not have an excuse that merits in the sort of credibility about why they went forward when there was a diplomatic path forward for they will choose this war....