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Radical deep on the policeen policies that havece led to that extraordinary violence that that you're talking about.en well,ed i was so saddened becaue as you may know, i spent quite a bit of time in minnesota every year i've going there for 15 years for the summer and it's just sobe beautiful. it's such a wonderful state in j the twin cities, minneapolis, u there's just such a vibrant community. never felt unsafe there. and then the lawlessness came, in after florida and people wonder if there's's any way to turn it around. now, you're right.n i mean, a it's a painful fewif years in the state...

Exactly right. you have to check by having information. when ms. ma makes the legitimate point that other white houses behaved similarly, extend that. this white house has not acted the way other white houses have acted. there's suspicion created. there's a web of lied that have been spun by this white house at every level from the very beginning. the congress that is empanelled now it has a responsibility to make sure what's going on is clear, fair, and reasonable in order to make sure that they are the balance and the check to what is going on in the executive office. they've got to will the...

The whole world that he's il lit ra rat and can't read the report. like that's how it ends now. >> right. and you think that end game is significant. >> i don't even think that's necessarily the end game. i don't think this is a story at all to be honest with you. >> why not? >> first of all, subject, target is completely meaningless. they are very defined terms. unfortunately a lot of people took that to mean target means somebody you're aiming at, you think you're going to indict. that is not how the department of justice defines a target. it's basically somebody that's about to be indicted....

It's going to end with him putting a big honking report on paul ryan's desk. >> right. >> at which point paul ryan will have a press conference and tell the whole world that he's il lit ra rat and can't read the report. like that's how it ends now. >> right. and you think that end game is significant. >> i don't even think that's necessarily the end game. i don't think this is a story at all to be honest with you. >> why not? >> first of all, subject, target is completely meaningless. they are very defined terms. unfortunately a lot of people took that to mean target means somebody you're aimi...

The author of "the truth the about trump". gloria, let me start with you it's one thing to use hyperbole about a casino, it's another thing to do it when you're president of the united states. and yet, it seems that people around the president and a lot of the president's supporters are willing to accept it. the question is, why? >> we've been trying to find the answer to that for a long time. i think we learned during the campaign the kind of catch phrase became don't take him lit ra literally. that his supporters didn't take him literally but they took him seriously. so they were willing to ...