adam kinsinger joins me now. welcome to the program. great to be here. you are looking for $61 billion of cuts in a $3.7 trillion budget. you re being called an extremist. are you going to back off at all when there is that kind of name calling. you know what, the only thing extreme in the whole debate is what the other side is saying and saying, frankly, ex-extreme comments like you just played and doing it to take the focus out of the fact that the congress last year failed to do the most basic job of congress and that is to pass a budget. so now we are operating on a continuing resolution and give is us an opportunity, the american people sent us here to reduce big bloated bureaucratic government that is crowding out the free market and that is what we are doing. we are going to reduce the size of government. do you think that the harsh rhetoric calling you an extremist time after time after time, 70,000 children will die,
this is a carve-out, not for the gun rights community. this is a carve-out for a single organization. reporter: they re hopping mad, the smaller groups. they re increasingly saying the nra is a big, bloated bureaucratic, too conservative gun group. and they re starting to oppose their own leaders in the nra. well, that s right. in this case, the nra, basically, jumped into the last lifeboat and left the rest of the pro-gun community to sink. reporter: we asked the nra several times to speak to us about all this. they refused. but for all the bad blood between the nra and the local groups, they re still on the same team, as we saw in virginia. how many of you are nra members? i m surprised. how many life members? okay. yeah. we have lots of life members, too. reporter: the goal of the grassroots gun rights movement is simple. more guns in more places in more of america. and while that may worry many americans these people are