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Up there. >> but obviously you love it, it's a passion of yours? >> really do. i take it everywhere with me. >> do you like being the driver or the -- >> don't take a piss now, i don't wear a little hat. it's like a hobby, like reading a book or painting a picture, it's three-dimensional. >> can you remember your first performance? >> singing? >> yes. we'll come to the other one later. >> yeah, i can. like it was yesterday. >> talk to me about that experience. >> well, it was in manchester, a place called the twisted weird, i was 19. and it was in a band with long john boardray. he asked me to...

Or the -- >> don't take a piss now, i don't wear a little hat. it's like a hobby, like reading a book or painting a picture, it's three-dimensional. >> can you remember your first performance? >> singing? >> yes. we'll come to the other one later. >> yeah, i can. like it was yesterday. >> talk to me about that experience. >> well, it was in manchester, a place called the twisted weird, i was 19. and it was in a band with long john boardray. he asked me to be the singer in the group and open up the show for him. and long john, for those of you who don't know, was instrumental in bringing rhythm...

Block bomber. i must have been awake for three days. >> illegal drugs? >> i didn't know it was illegal. he was a responsible grown-up and i was a mere lad of 19. i made one song last for half an hour. they had to give me a hook and get me off the stage. >> you loved that instant chemistry with an audience, that reaction you got? >> i didn't get any reaction at all. they were all busy drinker. it was what we call an all-nighter in those days. you're a bit too young to remember those days. but everyone was at the bar, no one was really watching me. but that was the first show. >> when was the mo...