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Campaign. certainly like a paul manofort and sean spicer from the podium at the white house said, oh, basically not involved in the campaign. that's not true. but carter page does fit into more along the lines of those descriptions here. he was never a central player in terms of the campaign apparatus. but did have meetings and he was, you know, in the inner circle and the president there, you know, was saying that he was one of his advisers here so look. as this plays out, it is getting closer and closer to the inner circle here and this fisa warrant, you know, that "the washington post" is r...

Americans whose names came up in incidental complexion. the president told "the new york times" what she did is one of the big, big stories of our time. >> reporter: he did, don. good evening. and the president also told "the new york times" in that interview about susan rice she was guilty of some type of a crime and not for him to necessarily decide. this is something that the white house has been trying to not talk about this week, actually. they have the syria strikes, other things. the russia investigation is still hanging over this administration. still hanging over the white house here....

Security agency, decides whether to grant these unmasking requests but we are told that typically the requests of senior officials are rarely denied and now despite in the judgment of the people looking at the reports that these obama officials requests were within the law and appear to be common practice, some members of congress do have concerns about the justifications that were given to unmask these individuals and the standards for the intelligence agencies to grant these requests so expect the both and senate intelligence committees to look into this matter as part of their broader inves...

That this is something that the administration -- they have to have a better way of explaining what the contacts were all about. as we move forward and shift away from maybe the syria story and back toward this investigation in the coming weeks. >> david, quickly, again, the president and the white house throw up a smoke screen with the issue of unmasking and susan rice? our reporting is she did nothing wrong and at least now from the reporting there's -- there was nothing illegal about it. no illegal activity here. did that smoke screen work do you think? >> two things, don. with regard to am...

There are different meanings. so this is about bloomberg reporting that tillerson asked foreign minister why should u.s. taxpayers being interested in eucaine. ukraine? >> i don't think u.s. taxpayers have it but i think u.s. taxpayers have to be led by leaders. you could have made that argument throughout the cold war. why is the united states defending europe? why is the united states defending all these countries around the world? you need leadership. leaders that explain to americans that part of what the united states has done ever since the 1940s is try to construct a peaceful world orde...