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A solution to the conflict in syria. or the efforts to build divisions with turkey, they're not going to be derailed. but even ordinary people were shocked by the way this ambassador andrei karlov was doned down so publicly. this was meant to be a conflict. a short military separation that russia was engaged on. an air war to support its ally bashar al assad. but increasingly, we're seeing there's a blowback effect. there are consequences for russia's military intervention in syria, as that conflict spills out into the neighboring countries. and, of course, elsewhere across the world as well. ...

Have a blowback effect and in other words, create more militants than you're actually capturing or killing. >> bob baer, give me a gut check on the "times" reporting of this story. i note that jack devine was an individual quoted by mark mazzetti and his colleagues, a former cia clandestine officer who among other things was concerned whether or not there were rules. what are we getting into as we pursue this stealth path? >> well, i think it's a good story. but what it sidestepped is wave special access programs. for the military under title 10 allows the military to assassinate. so essential...

Surgical that might possibly have a blowback effect and in other words, create more militants than you're actually capturing or killing. >> bob baer, give me a gut check on the "times" reporting of this story. i note that jack devine was an individual quoted by mark mazzetti and his colleagues, a former cia clan des stin officer who among other things was concerned whether or not there were rules. what are we getting into as we pursue this stealth path? >> well, i think it's a good story. but what it sidestepped is wave special access programs. for the military under title 10 allows the milita...

Ramifications of that were? in other words, did having that imagery available to so many americans on a daily basis 24/7 have some blowback effect on the administration? >> well, i think the first impact was it forced bp to either stop lying or being grossly incompetent that the spill was not 1,000 barrels per day or 5,000 barrels per day. it made it very obvious from that point on that trusting bp to make decisions alone was really not well placed. and so i think the spill cam had the impact of bringing in top scientists, taking awayç discretion from bp, having the obama administration and ...

Interpretation. if i favor the cbo score, i'm going to spend a certain way. if you don't, you are going to spend it the way you want to be seen. we need the dust to settle in order for there to be a vote. i'm not too concerned as to when the boat happens, whether it is next week or even in august. the key to this thing is getting it passed and moving this so the house and senate can come together and we can present a bill to the president. >> jon: it was passed by democrats, didn't get any republican votes, the president is suggesting that you ought to just let the thing crash and burn, is tha...