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Has. this is a president who, has you just mentioned, demonizes the news media, and this is a president who wages an assault on the very idea of truth. and i find it astounding that hollywood and that stephen colbert of all people would sort of welcome him onto the stage as just another celebrity. he's famous like the rest of that, and the source of that fame doesn't matter. >> i was surprised that reportedly it was stephen colbert's idea, especially considering the flip because it was fallon who was leading in the ratings. people saw the hair tossing of donald trump as sort of normalizing. th...

Vogue elover hearing -- is that your reaction? >> no. i mean, it's like so much with the trump administration and everything around it. you can't make this up, you know. and you all, i think being earlier today had a great graphic showing exactly where blt steak was in relation to "the new york times" bureau and the white house. these two lawyers weren't just having that conversation in any old restaurant with no expectation that somebody like a reporter might be nearby listening. they were having that conversation in the real crossroads of d.c. many politicians, many journalists sitting there...

Is not in the trump hotel in washington. there is another blt named restaurant in the trump hotel in washington. if you want to hear the trump lawyers talking about the trump case, you go to blt steak and apparently you sit outside because they do it right outside on the sidewalk. you can just walk by. you don't have to pay for lunch. just overhear them walking by. so, blt steak. not in the trump hotel. and now, to the latest on health care, the republican health care bill in the senate and jimmy kimmel. >> if your baby is going to die and it doesn't have to, it shouldn't be matter how much ...

And read him basically the riot act and said you can't be talking about this in an obviously public context, the concern here being not just potentially tipping their hand through the press to what their strategy is and tipping their hand to mueller, but also, a potentially violation of attorney/client privilege. >> i'm glad it was at the blt steakhouse for bad lawyers for trump. you know? i think that it's an incredible thing. but, you know, one thing that's in that story, that story by vogel and baker, is the fact that one of these complaints was that don mcgahn documents in a safe in the wh...

Ty cobb delivering accolades, many praise on mcgahn after the fact, saying he's helped me throughout the course. do you buy that? >> i think that was a little damage control, certainly. the concern among whout counsel and among the chief of staff is ty cobb was being incredibly indiscreet in having this conversation about such sensitive issues in such a public place. i would just add, peter, this was not only at this restaurant, blt steak, that is precisely 171 feet from "the new york times" d.c. bureau, but in the sidewalk seating area where not just any diner, but any passerby could potentia...