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To nothing. >> tucker: yet, there is an enormously powerful bipartisan push toward a conflict with iran. cranking up the severity of the sanctions and out right conflict. why? >> it's at foreign policy establishment in d.c. we saw a war in iraq and afghanistan and war in iran. you hear the rhetoric of limitef strikes and some say sink the iranian navy. once a war starts it escalates and we have no idea how it will turn out. >> tucker: and progressives are on board.es not all of them. but many liberals are on. bill crystal.

Federal lands in their board es. even if they were to be passed through congress, how would that work and how long would it take because as i understand it, it could take up to 20 years to get a proposal. >> well, number one, i think it just getting past the given that we are interconnected. in august of 2003, a situation in ohio where there was failure in the grid system put out lights on broadway in new york. and it remind us that with canada and the northeast, new england and the eastern sea board going dark because of that action, that there is this interaction. there is an interconnectedn...