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Instead, in private conversations and in the documents they are continuing to release this week, their counter report, they are arguing that the process isn't fair to president trump and trying to just move on from the actual discussion about the president's conducting of foreign policy. >> you know, jake, to bob costa's point, i mean, it's what you do when you have no facts. and what's so interesting is that it's sort of described as a fait acompli, how this is all going to end. i hate to use the word smoking gun because it feels like we have 17 of them, smoking guns in the form of witnesses ...

When we look at this story from them is it was a fist fight that led to khashoggi's death. takes on a dozen. one is a forensic pathologist and there are reports that a bone saw was involved. what does that sound like to you? >> well, certainly, and i agree with bob completely and his view on this. if you look at the composition of these 15 people, they weren't interrogators. they were bodyguards, security people. as you said, you had this forensic doctor along. so if you look at the reports that the turks have been putting out which basically says that jamal was assaulted as soon as he walked ...

What does that sound like to you? >> well, certainly, and i agree with bob completely and his view on this. if you look at the composition of these 15 people, they weren't interrogators. they were bodyguards, security people. as you said, you had this forensic doctor along. so if you look at the reports that the turks have been putting out which basically says that jamal was assaulted as soon as he walked into the consulate, and that he was dead within minutes, this was not an interrogation. and the idea that somehow he was struggling or fighting with this group of much younger, very fit human...

The bottom of the seabed in the south indian ocean. i just can't see a circumstance under which you could land a 777, keep it on the ground for, what is it, 11 days now, without it being discovered somewhere. >> and same question to you, peter. any chance at all that this plane can be found somewhere in tact and it is not, as bob just said, in pieces somewhere? >> i agree with bob completely. it's infinitesimal. i mean, unfortunately, i think we're looking for a wreckage field and if we're unlucky, it's going to be in the bottom of the south indian ocean. if we're in some ways lucky and that's...

>> i don't feel bad for him at all. >> every one of the bus drivers, most of them have access to break out windows in case something happens. he has something he could have used. he could have whooped, i would have used an ax on those little [bleep] in a second. he is a big guy. >> that's right, bob. >> those punks would not have -- if he went after them, had something in his hand. >> we need to be upset with the kids, we don't need to be upset with the bus driver. be upset with the parents that allow these kids to be like that, and the kids that videotaped it with iphones and did nothing. >> ...