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>> hitting a bottom like tom was talking about. his bottom, like you were so shocked wasn't in prison. my bottom wasn't losing my family. losing my career. >> larry: what was your bottom? >> my bottom was similar to his. i was thinking about that. i was in the l.a. county jail and i was calling a mutual friend of ours that will remain nameless to get him to bail me out of jail. and my ex-girlfriend was his personal assistant, she said the same thing, he doesn't want to talk to you. i remember hanging up the phone and somehow that gets through on an emotional level. i know it doesn't make sense...

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Family. >> larry: what was your bottom? >> my bottom was similar to his. i was thinking about that. i was in the l.a. county jail and i was calling a mutual friend of ours that will remain nameless to get him to bail me out of jail. my ex girlfriend was his personal assistant and she said the same thij he doesn't want to talk to you. i remember hanging up the phone and somehow that gets through on an emotional level. i know it doesn't make sense to nonaddicts but it does to me. i know who it is too. it's something that hits you like oh, my god, nobody wants to talk to me. >> nobody wants to ta...

Help people. >> he's going down to the mission and he doesn't want to talk about it but that's a good thing. >> i'm not supposed to talk about it. >> larry: you help others? >> i go there all the time. >> larry: service is part of the rehab. >> service and steps and the meetings. the triangle. if you stay in the triangle, you can't get in trouble. >> a secret thing. >> larry: keep it a secret. >> he's doing well. >> larry: thanks for joining us, bob. one more segment with tom sizemore. he's worked his way up from the hollywood chain. when we come back, a surprise from his early days on the scr...

>> larry: welcome back. tom sizemore, our special guest joined by bob forest, drug counselor, celebrity rehab with dr. drew. he's founder and director of hollywood recovery services and is a recovering addict himself. he was in and out of rehab two dozen times before finding sobriety in 1996 and he's known tom sizemore for 20 years. what took you so long? >> me, i saw you guys talking about what a bottom is. it's an interesting subject. tom and i just seemed to be people that have thick skulls and what gets through to other people doesn't get through to us. >> larry: what happened to you that ...