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>> he kind of just absorbs that for a minute, thinks about it, and as the conversation goes on, and i say, you know, mr. president, i don't know where this will end. it's just going to keep going up. >> the senate investigation was closing in on the president. to distance himself from the coverup, nixon needed scapegoats. >> in one of the most difficult decisions of my presidency, i accepted the resignations of two of my closest associates in the white house. bob holderman and john irlich. two of the finest ser advanceme -- servants it's been my planning to know. >> he planned his defense. >> ...

Peeric purchase if there is such a thing. you know, you read this in biographies, one of the jobs of bob holderman was to listen to the crazy things that nixon said and then not do them. pay no attention to them. and look right past them. maybe somebody is afraid that kelly is going to actually take him seriously. >> well let me pause the political side of this conversation. because i have some legal questions here and as smart as all of you, you are not as smart as my next guest. ann milligram from the state of new jersey and assistant district attorney in manhattan. thanks for coming on the ...