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25 million dollars. >> your conclusion seems to get an agreement from robert ray former white water counsel who was on with us last hour. listen. >> can talk about dangling threads in all they want about other things that are out there of course there's always something out there. the principle mandate here in order to determine whether crimes were comutted in connection with the real -- with the election campaign and potential collusion with the russian ares has now reached its finishing point. it sounds like you're in agreement that it ought to be end of this? >> absolutely. now, the concept...

Making these points at all? >> two stand outs here. bob mummer preceded jim comey a fbi director. i remember when he was leaving, i was asking everybody in, you know, in his world, hey, is mueller going to write a book? because frankly the transformation of the fbi in mid flight from a law enforcement agency to a counterterrorism agency is a remarkable story. i was laughed out of the room. >> you could have been my press secretary. i could have written that for you. >> then the flipsid3 to that is louie free who his relationship with bill clinton and the scandals of the clinton years was so ba...

From his mouth to be forthcoming or imminent? >> not that i'm aware of. i just know he speaks what he believes and he's not going to just say something because his national security advisors are telling him to. >> john bolton is going to have so much fun. phil rucker, thank you so much for joining you. when we come back, a presidential pal and confidant talks president trump, bob mummer and jail time. move over fox, you have competition. president trump has a new media crush. who he singled out and why their influence is far reaching more than fox news. not all are on board. we'll show you...