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floating above the continental united states, and we don't know what data it's collecting. you can see it right there on your screen and it's visable to people on the ground in montana. at least it has been since wednesday. today beijing confirmed it is theirs, claiming it is a, quote, unquote, civilian research air ship that went off course, but minutes ago, the pentagon flatly rejected that claim, calling it a surveillance balloon. secretary of state antony blinken's upcoming trip to china has now been postponed. the pro vocative move is inflaming a u.s.-china relationship already ...

Nature of this? >> absolutely. it's a spy balloon. the chinese would take down -- have taken our planes down that weren't flying in their air space. they forced them down. we let it go. we keep appeasing the chinese and they'll keep pushing. >> so general, as bob notes, this is just a couple of days after the u.s. moved forward with plans to access military bases that are very close to tw taiwan and based in the philippines, do you think this is a direct response to that or something in the works before we learned about that publicly? >> clearly in the works. probably in the works for a year o...