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That was so muted, it gave rise to the fact that the cops had reasons to be worried. >> and who was leading that protest? al sharpton. >> he called for those protesters. >> there was one guy who was a mentally ill, 21 times arrested, was wanted on murder, killed his own wife. >> he didn't kill her, it was a girlfriend he shot, she didn't die. >> it doesn't matter -- >> it does matter, bob. >> when you say that the guy comes up here to kill new york city cops is despicable but to lay it on the mayor. >> it was part of a very hostile and dangerous environment towards law enforcement to the point...

Police, march for them, again, i just -- i do think police are victims of their success because nobody -- it was so quiet saturday after that and it blew my mind. and i went and i talked to the cops out there who were absolutely demoralized and i do think that president obama could do two things, he should have a national day of support for the police, or something, declare it. and they should demand the return -- >> cuba today so they have the right to keep her. >> the timing is very right for that. bob, some good news about the two sons of ramos, the yankee steinbrenner -- >> it was -- you k...

Have had riots. >> he just linked them all up. >> yes, he did. >> don't you these if there weren't riots we would have had this? >> i think that al sharpton asking for protests, to the cops, to this crazy man killing two cops. >> this isolated event, among millions of excellent police work has contributed to this? >> not at all. not at all. that's what i said he did. what i said was that i thought this situation, had we had not had these demonstrations, had we not had regrettably this guying the being killed. we would not have had the protests and we would not -- de blasio has nothing to do wi...

Going down, there were no major leaders, those people that are in charge now, because they're associated with people like sharpton and they have a hard left backing, they cannot come out procop. they come out procop and then all of these activists get pissed off. >> maybe the people are just angry, let it go. but actually, i think that -- i wouldn't say blood on the hands. >> my point is -- right now, bob o you and the mayor are appealing for thoughtfulness and calm. >> a little late. >> we were doing that months ago, we were saying come on, we got to lighten up here. but they were demanding. ...

>> you did, you asked the question, what was the leap? you said did -- >> i don't have a problem with attributing his rhetoric to certain conduct. look at the police officers turning their back on him. >> do you blame the nra for -- >> is there any question that this guy was motivated to come down from baltimore to kill -- >> the guy was a crazy nut. he had been arrested 21 times. >> can you at least agree on that, right? >> he would have done anything, he said it. >> and that actually is your better point, bob, if you're going to -- to stick with that and not then say, but if we hadn't had th...