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Reason, because these countries don't spend enough money on defense. they're worried about the entitlement spending, have all of the other domestic programs that they have to deal with, they do not have growing economies. the bottom line, we don't have spare change. and the united states, i don't think we spend enough on defense, plus we're dealing with the sequester, which some conservatives argue should be in place even after this. i think it is hurting our troops and capability. in the coming months as they have debate of funding of the government moving forward, should conservatives hold t...

Veterans no matter what you do, some are more heroic than others but only heroes. >> dana: how do you define a hero? >> eric: so we spend hundred billion dollars a year on food stamps. we spend $260 billion a year on disability payments, that number is skyrocketing as dana pointed out. the numbers are off the charts. $45 million for people that risk their lives, he makes a distinction for people that see action and that don't but as bob points out there is lot of satisfaction. they should be held to the highest esteem. they are offering their service to the country in the name of freedom, we s...

Republicans come up with ridiculous people that talk about fences and sending everybody back and doing that stuff. all you do -- >> dana: let's talk about immigration in particular. i want to ask eric about the economy. in the primaries, which there were 12 or 13 candidates running in the primaries, romney went to the right of governor rick perry. then he doesn't talk about it further as he gets in the campaign. doesn't move anywhere. actually, really kind of lost steam when you talk about the dream act. the thing that is amazing that issue is so important. eric, what is so wrong with economic...

Republicans come up with ridiculous people that talk about fences and sending everybody back and doing that stuff. all you do -- >> dana: let's talk about immigration in particular. i want to ask eric about the economy. in the primaries, which there were 12 or 13 candidates running in the primaries, romney went to the right of governor rick perry. then he doesn't talk about it further as he gets in the campaign. doesn't move anywhere. actually, really kind of lost steam when you talk about the dream act. the thing that is amazing that issue is so important. eric, what is so wrong with economic...

Money they pour in, it verges on the obscene. but getting back to something that bob was just talking about, and you were just talking about, joe, the -- maybe when we look back at this campaign, depending on what happens in the campaign going forward, one of the most important ingredients in this campaign is the addition of ed gillespie to the romney campaign because what the romney campaign has lacked forever is focus. and ed gillespie, if as bob points out and i think he's correct, it's going to be just a slime fest going forward with the tv ads. ed gillespie presents a focus that romney ha...