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Where they are in harm's way there is a compelling point that bob referenced is you don't have a clear analysis how she died. so how do you prove without a reasonable doubt? >> and you have to because he faces life in prison. and there is the bathtub and it reminds me of the drew peterson case where she died in a dry bathtub. >> he was texting aggressively during his funeral to the girlfriend, number one. and number two he proposed marriage two weeks after his wife died? with nothing more than those two facts they can convict you. >> well he is getting on with his life. in drew and scott peter...

Loopholes. >> corporate loopholes, but republicans are saying, listen, we are open for some taxes, but if are you going to raise taxes in one area you have to cut them in another. it has to be revenue neutral. that's the issue with tax reform which is a heavy lift, but republicans and a few democrats are working on the tax reform. that's the rub of whether you take the revenue and reduce the deficit or make it revenue neutral. >> we need something to be done, but we will believe it when we see it. >> kick the can down the road. >> thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, bob. >> well there ...

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