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High unemployment in the hispanic community which is higher than the nation at large and they think that his economic message will resonate over time with gettable hispanics, hispanics that aren't going to go with obama in the election. i think it's a high-risk strategy. it's crystal clear the start of conversation with hispanic voters you have to show you're serious about find something kind of solution to the deportation issue. >> what do we know about his immigration policy? that sunday when he sat down with bob sheefrer a couple days ago kind of tied in knots on that question. we know abou...

But now his position is when i get into office i will evaluate all these options, i will evaluate that policy i want a longer term policy. does he want self-deportation policy, santorum policy. >> who is he? >> at least you admit it. chairman you're absolutely -- at least you admit where you stand. >> michael -- >> he won't admit where he stands on it. >> yes, mika. >> you don't want me to say you got nothing again, do you? >> no. go ahead. >> you can say that. >> i don't think you do here. i think you've got a half a point. listen, wouldn't you agree that there are key issue, key issues affec...