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Other -- you are imitating -- you did vote for him, i know you did. >> that did not happen. >> your chance, bob. >> well, listen, if all republicans have been as loyal to michael as michael is to them, he'd still be head of the rnc. the fact is that if this had gone to congress, we would've had rand paul filibustering while benghazi burned. we actually do have a vital interest in libya, five american presidents have said this guy has to go. if he stays in power, he's going to be a terrorist haven, he's going to do everything he can to disrupt the arab world. and it's utterly simplistic to say ...

Setting us straight. she's explained the long historic ek controversy -- he's still our republican national committee chairman. and bob shrom is a democratic strategist. do i hear the voice and chuckle worthy of mr. michael steele? >> you do. how are you doing, chris? >> it's great to have you, bob. this is one of our great ones of our time. here's newt gingrich supporting a no-fly zone and then disagreeing with what he said he wanted done. let's listen to both of these guys both newt gingrich. let's listen. >> exercise a no-fly zone this evening, communicate to the libyan military that gadhaf...

Michael steele, msnbc. this is head to head poll match-up. he leads romney by six points and everyone else by double digits. are y'all whistling through a political cemetery saying he is unelectable. >> i don't think so. the numbers are great it see a year out. you raise this kind of money and certainly, you know, with a very large number of folks in the primary on the republican side, donors who are still assessing and trying to figure out who they want to gravitate towards in that primary, the president has advantages right now. >> bob, bob, bob, look at comparison between now and where the ...

Speak with fork tongue. that's my view, forked tongue. your view, bob? >> well, i was a little surprised michael defended him. i think what he did was indefensible. you can't turn around and say i wouldn't intervene in libya, we could've relied on our allies. those are an absolute contradiction no matter how you try to square them. the truth of the matter is, the president does have a plan here, i think it does involve regime change. he can't say it because that's not what's in the u.n. resolution. and by the way, i think that's how the president will be judged. in the meantime, we have a lot ...