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They're concerns about currency manipulation. >> so is she for it or against it? she doesn't have enough information at this point to make a decision? there's a lot of people that are wondering where she's going to come down on this. >> well i hear you, but the point she has made is any trade gremt has to meet these two conditions. your guest even pointed out, let's see what's in the final agreement. what is the language? because that's what really matters. that is the point that she's made. >> all right, karen finney, great to have you with us. joining me tonight, bob shrump. also with us mer...

Economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income. that means he carried the majority of middle class voters. stuart is pretty far off base with this claim. there are a number of ways to define the middle class. the fact is median household income currently just over $50,000. we will never forget the 47% or when romney said president obama gave out gifts to win the election and even three weeks after the election, romney's campaign continues to prove just how out of touch they really are as to why they lost. for more, let's turn to bob shrump. good to have you with ...

He wrote that mitt romney carried the majority of every economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income. that means he carried the majority of middle class voters. stuart is pretty far off base with this claim. there are a number of ways to define the middle class. the fact is median household income currently just over $50,000. we will never forget the 47% or when romney said president obama gave out gifts to win the election and even three weeks after the election, romney's campaign continues to prove just how out of touch they really are as to why they lost. fo...

So that's who he's talking about and brian, the incredible thing is while this is going to be a major campaign issue between now and november, you take all the money that the president would raise with this tax hike on america's job creators and small businesses, it would only cover the debt for 8.5 days. that's it. just barely a week. >> because no, this is just a wedge issue, steve. i'm not telling you anything different, gretchen, what we're talking about, this could have been a speech from 2010, could have been a speech from 2009. the bad guys are the people making so much money, the count...

Are doing well on a sort of absolute level, we tend to feel better than worse. >> there are the future projections involving the stock market. just about everybody has some retirement investment in the stock market. i see it a lot with people who seem to be very financially secure second guessing expenditures because they are worried about the paper number and that number has gone down. >> when we are feeling richer because of our 401(k) has gotten fatter or our value in the home has gone up, we are spending more. we are looking at the markets which have been volatile. you think you don't have...