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That particular black site. in the report it's called cobalt. but the cia knew it as salt pit. and it was in afghanistan. and it was clearly mismanaged, this facility. they didn't even know a lot about the detainees put there. people were using techniques that weren't authorized. and yet, nobody, nobody was punished. >> you know, we just heard from bob talking about, i think, his word was idiots. but some of these contractors who were the ones carrying this out. we heard from senator feinstein today saying the program was run by this very small group of people, you know, maybe 40, maybe 50 peo...

Not enough people with experience because as bob has said, the cia wasn't in the interrogation and detention business. it didn't know how to do that. and, in fact, the bureau -- the cia had the bureau of prisons come and visit salt pit. and they were -- these guys from the bureau of prisons, they were astonished at what they found. so, you know, that doesn't surprise me. >> bob baer, do you think anyone here should be prosecuted? >> well, yeah, i think somebody should. laws were violated. i think destroying tapes of these interrogations when a federal court said don't destroy them, we need the...

According to this report, his interrogation was so brutal, it drove the agents who saw it to quoting the report to the point of tears and choking up. zubaydah was tortured for 17 consecutive days, talking 24/7, do the math, that is 400 hours of nonstop torture. he was told the only way he would be leaving was in a coffin-shaped box. and the cia even made plans to cremate his body should he have died in custody. that is one prisoner here, one of some 119, all of whom were subjected to enhanced interrogation. joining me by phone by colorado, he is a former cia operative. and from washington, ada...

Terrorist, what does that say to you? >> well, i think the whole program's clearly mismanaged. the fact that there's even a report tells me it was mismanaged. but the people that set this program up at the beginning, i know them all. and they had their misgivings at the time. they knew, for instance, that the cia had never engaged in torture, that our officers knew nothing how to do it, the consequences. they went out to contractors, which was just complete idiocy. so the contractors didn't know what they were doing. so this was all ad hoc. and at the time, people said this is going to explode...

>> even if they don't stop the terrorists, a lot of what they do discourages, but they have to be careful, can't get too far over into the crazy things. >> senator, i respect so much to your service to the country as a s.e.a.l. you must have been thinking, having been through one of these kinds of operations, me your perspective. i'm looking at this thing yesterday. >> well, i mean, i heard mike and bob talking earlier. it was a textbook operation and went perfectly. sometimes they run perfectly, times they done. to produce the action we had, you know, last night, it takes 20, 25 years of trai...