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Looks like, we need confidence. if we can get some corporate confidence, there's another money there to drive this thing and we're not headed into a recession. it's a confidence issue there's not a-- >> there's a lot of tax out there, toby. >> remember, as bob well knows, 1.3 trillion of that is overseas and they're not going to bringack because of taxes and the second part is the demand side of this. when you go into recession, that's not the time that you come back and start building business businesses. in recessions you build. they've been conserving because they see it in real time and wh...

America. >> exactly, brenda. look, i don't understand the problem with n we've historically, we've had to spend extra money on disasters and fema and such. we've historically taken that from another side of of the balance sheet so it balances out. now, all of a sudden. we're supposed to be, you know, daddy war bucks with the money when we've gone through this debt crisis. look, all anyone is saying, yes, look, pay the disaster relief bill and take it from many of the other areas that we have extra money and just balance the lecture, that's all. >> brenda: steve, rob paul to pay peter or whatev...

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Middle class so we can get this going again. >> steve, i will give you this one point. that the only thing that turns my numbers down, which have been right in 2000, 2003, 2007, the only thing that turns that around is some shock and awe and the only shock and awe that would have power would be these 15 million mortgages owned by fannie mae and freddie mac. get them down from about 5 1/2% to 3% where they would be today. the bottom line, republicans aren't going for that. they control the house and you're not going to have this have. that's the only thing, the fed can't do it. the ecb are way ...